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Agenda

1) Use Case reminder

2) Where we are on our road map. 

3) Open Action Items

4) JIRA Issues Review - https://jira.edmcouncil.org/projects/SEC/issues/SEC-7?filter=allopenissues

5) Todays content discussion.

SMIF OWL-UML

SKOS

RDF/S

6) For next week.

Proceedings:

20181126  FIBO SEC FCT

 

Discussion of Natural Person vs Legally capable person. The former is currently in BE, the latter in FND. At the very least this is backwards. Two issues:

 

1. how to resolve: deprecate and start from scratch or rework each to make right.

 

2. While it is clear that these are backwards, Pete asks if all this stuff should be in FND (while we have the hood open).

 

What does David Saul say about this?

 

David Saul The contract act of 1872.Every person is competent to contract who is of the age of majority according to the law to which he is subject, and who is of sound mind, and is not disqualified from contracting by any law to which he is subject.  https://www.citeman.com/4128-competent-to-contract.html

 

David Saul  An agreement becomes a contract if it is entered into between the parties who are competent to contract. Every person is competent to contract (1) who is of the age of majority according to the law to which he is subject; (2) who is of sound mind; and (3) who is not disqualified from contracting by any law to which he is subject.

 

Update of definition of Legally Capable Person

 

Per David Saul's input (thank you David)

 

Explanatory note to capture mental competence.

 

Chasing down references to NaturalPerson to replace with LegallyCompetentPerson

 

scratch that...

 

LegallyCompetentNaturalPerson is the new one...less ambiguous regarding the kind of thing involved.

 

Other concepts to be deprecated.

 

ACTION  completed below: Overview of a variety of BE issues 

 

10 open issues in SEC currently. A few have been added/re-emerged recently.

 

17 open in FBC, again, some re-assigned.


Discussed open issues with the complex hierarchy in BE that is impacting downstream work in FBC, SEC, and other domain areas.  Currently, the class hierarchy includes the following:

AutonomousAgent
     AutomatedSystem (FND)
     IndependentParty * inferred hierarchy, equivalent to Person or Organization
     LegalPerson (BE)
          Polity
               MunicipalEntity
               RegionalSovereignty
               SovereignState
               SupranationalEntity
               TribalEntity
          LEIEligibleEntity
          LEIRegisteredEntity
          LegalEntity
               JuridicalPerson
               CharteredLegalPerson
               Corporation
               Instrumentality
               Partnership
               PrivateCompanyWithLimitedLiability
               StatutoryBody
               Trust
                ...
          NaturalPerson
     Organization (FND)
           LEIRegisteredEntity * inferred hierarchy
           FormalOrganization
                GovernmentBody
                     BranchOfGovernment
                     GovernmentAgency
                     GovernmentDepartment
                     Instrumentality
                FormallyConstitutedOrganization
                NotForProfitOrganization
                OrganizationalSubUnit
                BusinessEntity
                     PrivateCompanyWithLimitedLiability
                     SoleProprietorship
                JuridicalPerson
                     CharteredLegalPerson
                     Corporation
                      Instrumentality
                      Partnership
                      PrivateCompanyWithLimitedLiability
                      StatutoryBody
                      Trust
                   ...
                ...
     Person (FND)
          LegallyCapablePerson (FND) * inferred hierarchy, equivalent to EmancipatedMinor or LegallyCapableAdult


Discussions over the last several weeks have recommended a number of simplifications, some of which we touched on during today's telecon.  These include:

- elimination/deprecation of FormallyConstitutedOrganization (BE-180)
- make Polity a child of GovernmentBody (BE-180)
- merge LegalEntity and JuridicalPerson, and make LegalEntity a child of FormalOrganization (BE-180)
- elimination/deprecation of LEIEligibleEntity and add the restriction on LegalEntity to have min 0 is identified by LEI (BE-195 - done)
- elimination/deprecation of LegallyCapablePerson and NaturalPerson in favor of LegallyCompetentNaturalPerson (BE-181 - done)
- revising the inheritance hierarchy for IndependentParty, Person, Organization (FND-??)
- other things??


The resulting hierarchy, after the changes listed above are performed, would look like:

AutonomousAgent
     AutomatedSystem (FND)
     IndependentParty (asserted)
          Person
               LegallyCompetentNaturalPerson (BE), asserted hierarchy, with a restriction on applicable jurisdiction
          Organization
               FormalOrganization
                    GovernmentBody
                         BranchOfGovernment
                         GovernmentAgency
                         GovernmentDepartment
                         Instrumentality
                         Polity
                             MunicipalEntity
                             RegionalSovereignty
                             SovereignState
                             SupranationalEntity
                             TribalEntity
                        NotForProfitOrganization
                        BusinessEntity
                             PrivateCompanyWithLimitedLiability
                             SoleProprietorship
                        LegalEntity
                             CharteredLegalPerson
                             Corporation
                             Instrumentality
                             LEIRegisteredEntity
                             Partnership
                             PrivateCompanyWithLimitedLiability
                             StatutoryBody
                             Trust
                       OrganizationalSubUnit
                              BranchOfGovernment
                              GovernmentAgency
                              GovernmentDepartment
                               ...
               LegalPerson
                    LegallyCompetentNaturalPerson (BE), asserted hierarchy, with a restriction on jurisdiction
                   Polity
                        MunicipalEntity
                        RegionalSovereignty
                        SovereignState
                        SupranationalEntity
                        TribalEntity
                   LegalEntity
                    ...

The current set of open issues will be implemented this coming week, and then another review pass may be needed to really clean this up appropriately.  Even though the content is in BE, it impacts SEC and FBC, so please review as time permits.

Decisions:

Action items

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